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		<title>By: Lance Knobel</title>
		<link>http://www.davosnewbies.com/2009/05/31/the-new-austerity/comment-page-1/#comment-344463</link>
		<dc:creator>Lance Knobel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 16:50:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Frank L: I suspect you&#039;re right on the first point. On the second, perhaps, or has Bessemer as a client. Certainly something struck a chord to provoke that response.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frank L: I suspect you&#8217;re right on the first point. On the second, perhaps, or has Bessemer as a client. Certainly something struck a chord to provoke that response.</p>
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		<title>By: Frank L</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frank L</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 16:44:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My first guess is that this was a &quot;feel good&quot; ad aimed at their existing clients more than at new clients -- &quot;see how great we, are we have a full page ad in the NYT (and by the way, please don&#039;t leave us)&quot;.

My second guess is that the first commentor works at Bessemer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My first guess is that this was a &#8220;feel good&#8221; ad aimed at their existing clients more than at new clients &#8212; &#8220;see how great we, are we have a full page ad in the NYT (and by the way, please don&#8217;t leave us)&#8221;.</p>
<p>My second guess is that the first commentor works at Bessemer.</p>
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		<title>By: Lance Knobel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lance Knobel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2009 21:37:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Naive, perhaps. Highbrow? I don&#039;t make any particular claims. I don&#039;t live in Indiana or Alabama, but so what if I did? Sheesh.

I think I know more than the average reader about wealth management and private banking. I&#039;ve written about the Swiss private banks on a number of occasions, and I&#039;m certainly well aware of the ideas of corporate image advertising. 

What struck me about the Bessemer ad was the use of a direct response mechanism, which isn&#039;t usually part of corporate image advertising. And I do think there&#039;s something striking about trawling for readers with at least $10 million to invest in today&#039;s climate. 

I&#039;m not sure how you make your guess on 1% of NYT readers having $10 million to invest. 15,000 would mean a significant majority of people with that kind of wealth in the US read the NYT. I&#039;m skeptical. Having a multi-million apartment and an income of far more than $123k would still get you nowhere near $10 million in assets to invest. There are plenty of New Yorkers and NYT readers with multiple millions in assets, but most are tied up in housing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Naive, perhaps. Highbrow? I don&#8217;t make any particular claims. I don&#8217;t live in Indiana or Alabama, but so what if I did? Sheesh.</p>
<p>I think I know more than the average reader about wealth management and private banking. I&#8217;ve written about the Swiss private banks on a number of occasions, and I&#8217;m certainly well aware of the ideas of corporate image advertising. </p>
<p>What struck me about the Bessemer ad was the use of a direct response mechanism, which isn&#8217;t usually part of corporate image advertising. And I do think there&#8217;s something striking about trawling for readers with at least $10 million to invest in today&#8217;s climate. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure how you make your guess on 1% of NYT readers having $10 million to invest. 15,000 would mean a significant majority of people with that kind of wealth in the US read the NYT. I&#8217;m skeptical. Having a multi-million apartment and an income of far more than $123k would still get you nowhere near $10 million in assets to invest. There are plenty of New Yorkers and NYT readers with multiple millions in assets, but most are tied up in housing.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Jacobs</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jon Jacobs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2009 21:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is an astonishingly naive post, for a supposedly highbrow blog. 

How does accumulating $10 million in investable assets deviate in any way from &quot;today&#039;s austerity&quot;? 

Remember: investable wealth by definition means savings - earnings that were not spent. $10 million is a typical minimum for the sector of wealth management that&#039;s known as &quot;private client banking.&quot; Bessemer Trust is one of the better-known and established service providers in that niche. (Some firms set their minimum still higher, by the way.)

So, what is not austere about saving and investing? It&#039;s what all our parents and grandparents (and for the younger among us, our great-grandparents) did during  and after the last Depression, albeit on a smaller scale in most cases.

The assumption that the number of New York Times readers with $10 million to invest is &quot;vanishingly small&quot; is laughably naive, as well. I presume Mr. Knobel resides in Indiana, perhaps, or Alabama...somewhere far from New York City, where the median apartment still sells for upwards of $1 million and the minimum income needed to maintain a middle-class standard of living is $123,000 (according to a recent analysis by a widely respected organization, I don&#039;t recall which one offhand). 

My guess is the percentage of NY Times readers who could meet Bessemer&#039;s minimum is on the order of 1%. Small, yes, but hardly &quot;vanishingly small&quot; - that&#039;s 15,000 people. 

It&#039;s true that such people don&#039;t pick up the phone to assign their millions to someone they learned about through a magazine ad. 

I guess the oh-so-educated and sophisticated Mr. Knobel is a newbie not only when it comes to the concept of private banking, but also to the concept of corporate image advertising.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is an astonishingly naive post, for a supposedly highbrow blog. </p>
<p>How does accumulating $10 million in investable assets deviate in any way from &#8220;today&#8217;s austerity&#8221;? </p>
<p>Remember: investable wealth by definition means savings &#8211; earnings that were not spent. $10 million is a typical minimum for the sector of wealth management that&#8217;s known as &#8220;private client banking.&#8221; Bessemer Trust is one of the better-known and established service providers in that niche. (Some firms set their minimum still higher, by the way.)</p>
<p>So, what is not austere about saving and investing? It&#8217;s what all our parents and grandparents (and for the younger among us, our great-grandparents) did during  and after the last Depression, albeit on a smaller scale in most cases.</p>
<p>The assumption that the number of New York Times readers with $10 million to invest is &#8220;vanishingly small&#8221; is laughably naive, as well. I presume Mr. Knobel resides in Indiana, perhaps, or Alabama&#8230;somewhere far from New York City, where the median apartment still sells for upwards of $1 million and the minimum income needed to maintain a middle-class standard of living is $123,000 (according to a recent analysis by a widely respected organization, I don&#8217;t recall which one offhand). </p>
<p>My guess is the percentage of NY Times readers who could meet Bessemer&#8217;s minimum is on the order of 1%. Small, yes, but hardly &#8220;vanishingly small&#8221; &#8211; that&#8217;s 15,000 people. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s true that such people don&#8217;t pick up the phone to assign their millions to someone they learned about through a magazine ad. </p>
<p>I guess the oh-so-educated and sophisticated Mr. Knobel is a newbie not only when it comes to the concept of private banking, but also to the concept of corporate image advertising.</p>
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