Comments on: Clinton concession http://www.davosnewbies.com/2008/02/21/clinton-concession/ A year-round Davos of the mind, written since 1999 by Lance Knobel Thu, 18 Feb 2010 09:26:21 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: Hal O'Brien http://www.davosnewbies.com/2008/02/21/clinton-concession/comment-page-1/#comment-232518 Hal O'Brien Tue, 26 Feb 2008 05:26:11 +0000 http://www.davosnewbies.com/2008/02/21/clinton-concession/#comment-232518 <i>"In a parliamentary system I think she’d be a very successful prime minister. It’s a different tone."</i> I think this gets it exactly right. And it's why her admiration of LBJ is completely understandable. Trouble, LBJ found out the US <i>isn't</i> a parliamentary system, to his cost. I suspect a H. Clinton presidency would be just as frustrating as LBJ's for all concerned. Teddy Roosevelt called the presidency "the bully pulpit," and I think that comes much closer to the mark. And Obama is much better suited to that task than Clinton is. “In a parliamentary system I think she’d be a very successful prime minister. It’s a different tone.”

I think this gets it exactly right. And it’s why her admiration of LBJ is completely understandable.

Trouble, LBJ found out the US isn’t a parliamentary system, to his cost. I suspect a H. Clinton presidency would be just as frustrating as LBJ’s for all concerned.

Teddy Roosevelt called the presidency “the bully pulpit,” and I think that comes much closer to the mark. And Obama is much better suited to that task than Clinton is.

]]> By: Lance Knobel http://www.davosnewbies.com/2008/02/21/clinton-concession/comment-page-1/#comment-231669 Lance Knobel Fri, 22 Feb 2008 19:25:22 +0000 http://www.davosnewbies.com/2008/02/21/clinton-concession/#comment-231669 I agree with Michael's assessment. And my sense of that final moment was very much that it was listening. I agree with Michael’s assessment. And my sense of that final moment was very much that it was listening.

]]> By: Michael Markman http://www.davosnewbies.com/2008/02/21/clinton-concession/comment-page-1/#comment-231664 Michael Markman Fri, 22 Feb 2008 19:04:39 +0000 http://www.davosnewbies.com/2008/02/21/clinton-concession/#comment-231664 It's not just what Hillary Clinton said at the close of the debate, but also the fact that what she said brought the crowd to its feet. Clinton owned the two most memorable moments last night. When she slapped Barack Obama with a cheap joke, the crowd booed. When she praised him and promised unity, they gave her a standing ovation. Hope she was listening. It’s not just what Hillary Clinton said at the close of the debate, but also the fact that what she said brought the crowd to its feet.

Clinton owned the two most memorable moments last night. When she slapped Barack Obama with a cheap joke, the crowd booed. When she praised him and promised unity, they gave her a standing ovation.

Hope she was listening.

]]> By: Michael Markman http://www.davosnewbies.com/2008/02/21/clinton-concession/comment-page-1/#comment-231662 Michael Markman Fri, 22 Feb 2008 19:00:47 +0000 http://www.davosnewbies.com/2008/02/21/clinton-concession/#comment-231662 Reading Lakoff is easier than applying Lakoff. Lots of tech marketers read Geoffrey Moore's "Crossing the Chasm" but most products failed anyway. Reading Lakoff is easier than applying Lakoff. Lots of tech marketers read Geoffrey Moore’s “Crossing the Chasm” but most products failed anyway.

]]> By: Lance Knobel http://www.davosnewbies.com/2008/02/21/clinton-concession/comment-page-1/#comment-231515 Lance Knobel Fri, 22 Feb 2008 04:29:13 +0000 http://www.davosnewbies.com/2008/02/21/clinton-concession/#comment-231515 I thought Hillary Clinton was in elegiac mood from the start (I wrote my post at about the 45 minute mark), although that changed a bit in the second half of the debate. But the ending seemed to me a clincher. Her reaching out to Obama struck me as not just good sportsmanship, but recognition for the nation that the better candidate had won. <a href="http://marcambinder.theatlantic.com/archives/2008/02/a_final_thought_on_tonights_de.php" rel="nofollow">Marc Ambinder</a> suggests something of the same. I thought Hillary Clinton was in elegiac mood from the start (I wrote my post at about the 45 minute mark), although that changed a bit in the second half of the debate.

But the ending seemed to me a clincher. Her reaching out to Obama struck me as not just good sportsmanship, but recognition for the nation that the better candidate had won. Marc Ambinder suggests something of the same.

]]> By: Scripting News for 2/21/2008 « Scripting News Annex http://www.davosnewbies.com/2008/02/21/clinton-concession/comment-page-1/#comment-231498 Scripting News for 2/21/2008 « Scripting News Annex Fri, 22 Feb 2008 03:05:32 +0000 http://www.davosnewbies.com/2008/02/21/clinton-concession/#comment-231498 [...] the debate my friend Lance Knobel wrote a post saying he thought perhaps Hillary Clinton was conceding the nomination to Barack [...] [...] the debate my friend Lance Knobel wrote a post saying he thought perhaps Hillary Clinton was conceding the nomination to Barack [...]

]]> By: Dave Winer http://www.davosnewbies.com/2008/02/21/clinton-concession/comment-page-1/#comment-231497 Dave Winer Fri, 22 Feb 2008 03:04:59 +0000 http://www.davosnewbies.com/2008/02/21/clinton-concession/#comment-231497 http://www.scripting.com/stories/2008/02/21/unitedStates20.html http://www.scripting.com/stories/2008/02/21/unitedStates20.html

]]> By: Lance Knobel http://www.davosnewbies.com/2008/02/21/clinton-concession/comment-page-1/#comment-231492 Lance Knobel Fri, 22 Feb 2008 02:14:41 +0000 http://www.davosnewbies.com/2008/02/21/clinton-concession/#comment-231492 I suspect she does read Lakoff, but that's not her. She can't do it. In a parliamentary system I think she'd be a very successful prime minister. It's a different tone. I suspect she does read Lakoff, but that’s not her. She can’t do it. In a parliamentary system I think she’d be a very successful prime minister. It’s a different tone.

]]> By: Dave Winer http://www.davosnewbies.com/2008/02/21/clinton-concession/comment-page-1/#comment-231490 Dave Winer Fri, 22 Feb 2008 02:12:17 +0000 http://www.davosnewbies.com/2008/02/21/clinton-concession/#comment-231490 She doesn't read Lakoff. She still thinks it's about the details. No one cares. He'll do the best he can for us, that's all that matters. She doesn’t read Lakoff. She still thinks it’s about the details. No one cares. He’ll do the best he can for us, that’s all that matters.

]]> By: Lance Knobel http://www.davosnewbies.com/2008/02/21/clinton-concession/comment-page-1/#comment-231489 Lance Knobel Fri, 22 Feb 2008 02:02:45 +0000 http://www.davosnewbies.com/2008/02/21/clinton-concession/#comment-231489 Maybe I wrote too soon. Clinton just used the line, "That's not change you can believe in, that's change you can Xerox", referring to the wholly bogus plagiarism charges. I think she lost a lot of people there. Petty and cheap. Maybe I wrote too soon. Clinton just used the line, “That’s not change you can believe in, that’s change you can Xerox”, referring to the wholly bogus plagiarism charges.

I think she lost a lot of people there. Petty and cheap.

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